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Frostiron Poll Results: People Want To See Less...

People Want To See Less:

  • Them falling in love is getting old. I prefer my Loki to be an evil little shit who uses Tony for some gain or simply for his own pleasure and nothing else. Also, enough with the mpreg.
  • Less woobie!Loki
  • Loki being a damaged, broken doll that needs to be handled with kid gloves.
  • coffee shops, usual tropes, woobie Loki, constant ACDC references
  • I'm not too keen on MPREG. I think Loki would have learned how to fix something like that, or be smart enough to invent some kinda magical birth control.
  • fast development of their relationship
  • threesomes (specially when it's with Thor. NO.)
  • Easy acceptance of Tony/Loki dating from the rest of the Avengers. I want the angst.
  • In general, really: Thor who's overprotective about Loki's sexual partners. I don't think Loki would honestly let him get away with that, even pre-Thor.
  • All the Sleipnir stuff is annoying
  • That Loki was evil simply because he was misunderstood, and that all he needs is a hug.
  • Mpreg, rape/non-con
  • "Mpreg... as much as it's following the Norse mythology, between Loki and Toni it's just not my cup of tea."
  • AUs (high school, coffeshop, etc.). There's a ton of great canon to work with. NOT INCLUDING MAGIC. Loki becoming contented once he gets into a relationship because he has more issues than the New York Times. Tony having the barest characterization (snarky and not much beyond that). Any winter-related descriptions of Loki's skin.
  • Either of them being whiny babies or, like, timid in bed. I mean, COME ON. THEY ARE BADASS MOFO'S WHO DON'T TAKE NO SHIT, WHY THE FUCK WOULD ANYONE CRY IN BED I MEAN WHAT THE HELL
  • Loki becoming a sissy baby. I hate when he acts all weak. He's a god!
  • I just really strongly dislike Mpreg. ALSO: I prefer when people stick to canon. Making Tony taller makes no sense to me. ALSO ALSO: I really do like bottom!Loki, it's just it's very rarely written well. Tony bottoming makes more sense early on in the relationship, seeing as there's no way Loki would make himself that vulnerable that quickly. There's way too many fics where Loki is really OOC; just a whiney, sniveling weakling. It's annoying. That's just my two cents, though.
  • Loki suddenly apologizing for everything- he freaking tried to destroy a world because he hated the beings on it, and then tried to take over another world cause his brother's gf lived there. C'mon, he's not gonna apologize that easy.
  • "Tony cheating on Pepper I just can't. Either cheating on anybody to be together ugh Either of them not being as smart as they should be"
  • Mpreg.
  • There's never too much of anything Frostiron. More of everything, but not less of anything.
  • "I'm tired of Loki being portrayed as very feminine. He is a man not a woman. Unless it's an AU, that's different. Also why is Loki always super skinny? He's always so bony."
  • STOP MAKING LOKI SEEM SO WEAK AND FRAIL. HE IS A GOD.
  • OOC tears of pain (mostly from Loki). Bad characterization. Thor being evil. Odin being evil; he's not good with communication and he kind of sucks as a dad but come ON
  • Less stupid relationship drama. They're grown men! (shhh, I know Loki throws tantrums and Tony is secretly 12 but good grief if I have to read one more sob story about them acting like lovestruck emotional teenagers I will freakin' shit myself!)
  • Broken/vulnerable Loki (although i read some fics that i liked). I actually don't care about fics including things i don't like, if there is something i don't like, i just don't read it
  • Love. Never could deal with lovey-dovey fics. The second it's mentioned, I usually exit out in search of another. Unless it really is a fanatically written fic. Mpreg is a no-go, as well as intersex or genderswapping.
  • Less overall happiness and forgiving if or when Loki apologizes or whatnot. NEVER FORGIVE. Okay, maybe not never, but not so .... instantaneously?
  • I am not a fan of either male pregnancy, or when individuals write Loki very feminine, needy, generally out of character.
  • mpreg
  • less thor hate. less boring thor. less weepy loki. less dumb as a brick thor. less loki-stripped-of-powers-dumped-on-earth plots
  • College/school AU.
  • Weepy Loki.
  • The idea that Loki was controlled by the Tesseract/Thanos. Bullshit.
  • Less Loki suddenly deciding to be a good little boy. Less avoiding acknowledging the shit he pulled. Less pretending Tony's a saint as well. Less de-powered Loki redemption fics. Like they can only get together if Loki becomes a complete woob.
  • I don't like it when Loki is supposed to still be evil, he has sex with Tony, and then everyone is cool with the whole evil part. Or, "WHAT? YOU SLEPT WITH LOKI?! HE'S EVIL AND... screw it we don't care any more. Welcome to the team, Loki!" On that note, I don't love Loki as an Avenger (I don't know much about the comics, so I don't know if he teams up with them eventually or temporarily.), but I do like redemption.
  • Generally, situations that call for suspension of disbelief. Like, for example, instantly horny Tony that just can't say no. Hello, he's a genius, he surely didn' get to where he is because he's driven by his base instincts like a monkey. If he does something, he's gotta have good reasons to.
  • Tony being a jerk to Loki and then feeling bad and having a total change of heart.
  • Horribly out of character writing
  • Ridiculous out of character moments. How are there so many Nutella-centric Frostiron fics?
  • Mpreg, bottom!Loki, overly-emotional relationshippy stuff (neither man is the type for that imo)
  • bottom Tony
  • MPREG. Also Loki being abused.
  • Loki becoming embarrassingly lovey with Tony. I can't accept that he would be obviously mushy and doting.
  • cuddley wuddley poopsy loveydovey "LOKI HAS BECOME GOOD!!!!1" garbage.
  • I'm sort of sick with Thor being the super over-protective big bro. If Loki really is a virgin in the fic, then okay, I get it. But if Loki is the slut of the century, then Thor really doesn't need to be so overbearing.
  • Nah, I pretty much adore it all.
  • I feel like most fic uses two standard set ups: either Loki is on the run and turns to Tony for help, or Loki is punished (and possibly depowered) and banished to Midgard into Tony's custody. Less of Loki having a broken, shy, blushing virgin, or tractable personality. Less AC/DC being mentioned, lol. At least mention Black Sabbath, it's only his self-assigned theme song.
  • I feel like most fic uses two standard set ups: either Loki is on the run and turns to Tony for help, or Loki is punished (and possibly depowered) and banished to Midgard into Tony's custody. Less of Loki having a broken, shy, blushing virgin, or tractable personality. Less AC/DC being mentioned, lol. At least mention Black Sabbath, it's only his self-assigned theme song.
  • lady loki
  • cuddly needy Loki. Not going to happen
  • Loki losing his powers. Odin being villainised (He made mistakes, but he's not overall bad. It would be nice if people could get that in their heads...)
  • Unexplained domestic fluff kind of gets to me, but I honestly think people should be able to write what they want to write as long as it's not directly hurtful. Still, I'd like the people who write domestic fluff remember exactly where these two start from.
  • Character essays/studies
  • Demonizing Thor, Homophobic Steve,
  • Woobiness, insecure-out-loud Tony or Loki, dumbed down and overly-Shakesperian!Thor, and Steve being either homophobic or too quickly accepting of a homosexual relationship between Tony/Loki (c'mon, do a little character development there, taking into consideration his bg and the fact he missed the sexual revolution).
  • Loki being cool to the touch in his Aesir form. That headcanon makes no sense whatsoever. If his body temp was noticeably cooler than that of other Aesir, why wouldn't someone have noticed that fact earlier? Oh, and that whole bonding over daddy issues thing is getting old. Also, most importantly, Lady Loki. Words cannot describe how much I hate Lady Loki. Just stop, please."
  • Loki without autonomy (mostly fueled by the free-of-blame Loki was forced to do terrible things fics). Loki with amnesia is like a lost kitten and absolutely cannot function without the avengers. (terrible written) Highschool AUs. Cheating (Pepper or otherwise). Super over the top sappy coupling declarations of love, i can't live without you, don't leave me i will die, because um, no.
  • if everyone could stop woobifying loki and treating him like a hug is gonna make it all better and that he isnt villainously inclined that would be grand kthx. HE ENCOURAGED HIS BROTHER TO GO START SHIT IN JOTUNHEIM TO PROVE A POINT, KNOWING DAMN WELL IT WOULD PROBABLY ESCALATE, THE TACTICS OF A NICE PERSON.
  • Nope, I'm good.
  • Completely dependant Loki. Yes, he is emotionally hurt but he is also a super-villian and it will take more then "aww poor baby Loki" to make him get past his hurt. He is stubborn.
  • coffee or student au
  • Totally teenage-angst-ified characters, or just 'totally misunderstood, actually a really good person under all that angst' Loki.
  • woobieness, sudden vulnerability
  • Less overprotective!Thor. Let's face it, Thor has never been overly protective of Loki. Would he really do a character 180 and threaten Tony if he ever hurt his brother? Tony, who he works with and is friends with?
  • Mpreg - that goes for all fandoms.
  • Woobie anyone. These are heroes and villans, not cupcakes. And that goes for side characters. A dopey thor is hilarious, but when he's a big unconsolable woobie, its irrating. He loves his brother, but he's not niave/blind to things, he Can and will Kick Loki's ass if need be.
  • loki being weak, tony being weak, thorki overtures
  • Blowing off Pepper. She is very important in Tony's life and I'd like to see her stronger.
  • Wobbified Loki.
  • Less mythology, Less Clint you’re a retard, less Thor you’re a retard, Less Steve you’re a 50’s retard, less everything is fixed with SEX, less odd food kinks? What the fuck, two grown overly posh adults only live on waffles!? give the guy a hamburger or something gourmet? Can we get even less mythology? High school/collage AU. Done. To. Death.
  • Crying woobie Loki. He only cries (in the MCU) when he's having more intense pain than anything, and even then it's only one tear that often goes missed by the casual viewer. Never flat-out sobbing.
  • Tony being the dominate one.
  • Less pepper
  • Both/either treated as fragile. Issues not given appropriate amount of time/exploration
  • Less of Loki being a whiny bitch and just suddenly being GOOD overnight. Even if he wanted to be 'on the side of right' all the time, he's predisposed to mayhem. It's WHY he was created. I hate it when someone gives him a hug and he's alright from then on. Sure he needs a bit of a kick up the backside to get himself straght - but he's never going to stop being a dick to people, because it's who he is and what he was made to do. He is the personification of chaos and people need to recall that when writing him.
  • mpreg
  • Eh, I could do with less Thorki and Stony but w/e.
  • less mpreg, less thorki, less wimpy loki please no wimpy loki, less immediately good loki he is evil guys or at least screwed up. They're both immensely capable so absolutely no wimpy loki and no wimpy tony. Don't make them weak, or lovey-dovey in any way, with the whole "open to feelings" thing--they both hide their emotions do not fall over each other with declarations of love (at least not at first)
  • I don't actually like mpreg unless it's done REALLY well. I don't like Tony's ~MAGICAL LOVE~ fixing Loki - he's really screwed up, they both are, that needs acknowledged.
  • Whooby anyone
  • I'd like longer periods of time for both of them lowering their defenses. In some fics I've read, the speed that they do heart-to-hearts comes off as insanely OC.
  • compliant anyone, really.
  • Less ass-slapping. I don't know who decided that spanking was sexy, but whoever it was needs to back up off my ship. Also less sloppy dirty sex talk. Loki always struck me as being very manipulative and articulate, it seems so out of character for him to dissolve into nothing but shoddy OMG I'M A SLUT LOL kind of chatter. I'm okay with dirty talk, I just wish people would stay a little more in character with it, maybe throw in some references to kings and servants, instead of it always being about who is the bigger slut.
  • Less mpreg and less gory kink.
  • no stony, no loki mpreg, no lady loki
  • Loki's kid drama. Lady Loki being a damsel in distress. Extreme H/C with rape and abuse and such. Thor being an idiot or abusive. AU's that have them as pretty much OC character. Author's own issues through Loki.
  • no stony, no loki mpreg, no lady loki
  • long drawn out redundant explanations to things that Loki would have no idea what they are on a first explanation, for example name dropping the Ten Rings with out any follow up on what they are. Mentioning Obi but not the relationship they had, or that Odin would in Thor(film) tell Loki that his being a Jotun doesn't matter, and then after the events in the Avengers(film) he's all like off to the gallows with ye because your not my son even though both he and Frigg see Loki as such. Oh and Stupid Thor, he is a smart person, capable of connecting cause and effect and I know the comics are different from the MCU but at no time does Thor come across as stupid or dumb, only overly excited and quick to jump to conclusions.
  • Loki acting out of character.
  • Constant sex. Like that is all it is.
  • Mpreg, emo woobies with awful evil families and soft sensitive feelings about everything
  • Naturally submissive Loki. I get engaging in alternating power plays during sex, but the way he's sometimes written as really passive, naturally, is kind of baffling to me.
  • less cutesy, lovey-dovey elements to their relationship
  • If I never again read another story where Loki arrives with a golden apple five minutes after Tony dies of old age it'll be too soon.
  • Woobie!Loki
  • Emo Loki
  • Pepper
  • Woobie!Loki, Woobie!Tony, hoplessly in love Loki or Tony, less idiot!Thor - he isn't stupid; he learned English in a week ffs.
  • wobbly!Loki, ugh. Emotional heart-to-hearts right at the start.
  • Pepper - cut her out completely
  • Loki being nice. Loki is not nice.
  • Anything to do with Thor, unless it's completely platonic and to do with them working out their issues (or Thor trying to apologize and Loki not having any of it).
  • woobiefying of loki and tony. That trope is getting old. Also: instant sexual attraction = nope!
  • Thor defending Loki's virtue/getting angry on Loki's behalf
  • Thor being an idiot. My personal opinion is that he's not as smart as Loki, yes, but he still is an intelligent person. He's an Asgardian prince (to be king) and he and Loki surely had the same level of education. Apart from that he knows how to make good decisions. When I'm reading a fic and Thor's there shown like an idiot that thinks slow it's automatically a no-go for me.
  • Less pathetic/"fragile" Loki, less rape/torture as plot excuse when no real need for it, also less high-school AUs (too much teenage angst and melodrama)
  • Physical violence from Loki. Abuse is abuse, slapstick humor doesn't excuse hurting Tony either.
  • Crybaby Loki, stop please. He's a fucking GOD. Not a schoolgirl with some hormonal problems...
  • Making Thor the bad guy and let Tony give a thousand year old god a speech on how to treat his brother. Tony warming up to Loki like it's okay for you to throw me out a window cuz you're hot. NO. And vice versa.
  • I really don't like fury portrait as an asshole.
  • less horse jokes, less MPREG, less undying-love-golden-apple-fluff, less unrealisticly nice/vulnerable Loki, less depressive Tony

  • Background Thorki. Incest isn't something I want to read, even allusions to it, and people should put warnings on that shit.
  • Pathetic Loki
  • Not dealing with Loki's past actions. Instant forgiveness of past evil
  • People impying Loki and Thor have ust. They may not be actual brothers but they were raised so and Thor would never be over the idea of it. So it just makes it a squick factor for me. Also in regards to the Steve/Tony thing- not my cup of tea but I don't mind when reading people say they used to date, thats fine. But I hate that everyone puts steve on a freaking pedestal, yes he has nice manners and a good heart but he was also kind of a major dick in the Avengers movie. He just decided to instantly hate Tony because he mentioned Steve's past once, after that Steve's all bitchy to him. Yes I know Steve lost a lot of things, but he said he'd seen the footage of Tony's past so did he just elect to ignore the whole kidnapped and tortured and oh yeah I need a giant magnet in my chest or I'll die but hey I'm still trying to help people thing? And why did he judge Tony for making weaons? He got along fine with Tony's dad who not only made weaonms but turned him INTO a weapon! I just- ugh. And people thinking Black Widow is a better liar than Loki, guys his title is the 'God Of Lies'. Hew wins full stop. I'll stop now.
  • Sappy fluffy I love yous that are really ooc
  • Domestic Loki. Talking about Tony/Pepper's relationship. Tony forgetting to eat/take care of himself
  • Evil-for-the-hell-of-it!Loki. Even in the Avengers when he was the major secondary villain, he wasn't wantonly destructive. Everything he did had a purpose behind it, even the incident in Germany. Loki's tantrums, and he DOES have them, are more individual; he targets one or two people to vent his frustrations on rather than taking it out on a city. Example: Natasha scene. He prefers to tear down people not buildings. Excessive dirty talk, especially from Tony. That may just be a personal thing, but it just doesn't do anything for me in FrostIron. I do believe that Tony talks during sex, but I think with Loki and Tony it would be primarily banter and snark, not aimless filth. Loki being technologically challenged. He's a clever boy, probably as clever as Stark, and while he wouldn't know what he was doing right away, he could probably figure it out without too many mishaps.
  • Loki being woobified. We've mostly solved this, but I still run across it occasionally.
  • OOCness
  • Loki being sent to earth without his powers and Tony just happen to run into him on the street or whatever. Just Loki being sent to earth in general is used too much in my opinion. I still like it, I just think that there are other solutions.
  • au college. self-pity loki.
  • Uhhh, really...just less poorly written, ooc fanfic. But I suppose that's in general...and I think I might even be a bit guilty of this when I write AU's...And I thoroughly dislike Thorki, so I don't like when it's not tagged and it shows up in my reading. OH! And untagged character deaths, but again, that's in general. Uhmm, and it's not really that I'd like to see less of certain fics, I generally just avoid anything that is too graphic in non con/rape type stuffs. I don't really bump too much into those.
  • Domestric crap. I don't read this pairing because they're fluffy shmoopy happytimes, I read it because they're both majorly screwed up and should be trying to murder one another between the sexytiems.
  • Less needy, vulnerable, OOC Loki. If he's bottoming or is angsting, then for him to still be in character, and to not just suddenly become a bag of sobbing mess instead of crazy cats.
  • Falling madly in love without any build-up whatsoever, or falling into bed together at the drop of a hat
  • Less drunk sex - pretty sure that they can get together without being intoxicated first. They're not the type to have desires brought out by alcohol, since they don't hide those desires in the first place.
  • Even though it's alright sometimes, I hate when Loki goes to the good side. He's a villain, plain and simple.
  • Shorter Loki, definitely good Loki, Tony rehashing the same nicknames, darkThor
  • Oh Odin, i don't know. Hmm... Pepper? Yeah, i''m a bitch. I don't like her and I regret nothing.
  • And... Hmm... fem!LokixTony or fem!TonyxLoki. This is bad. Simply bad. Sorry.
  • I can handle bottom!loki, but he would at least take some control, even in that position. The cute/weak/soft Loki is a bit OOC for me, personally.
  • Mpreg
  • Everyone just accepting that they're gay like "oh now I'm gay? cool let me shag everyone, or maybe just Loki/Tony idc!"
  • Whiny, helpless Loki. Loki with both a vag and dick at the same fucking time.
  • Loki being a whiny little misunderstood pansy who just wants approval and love and didn't mean to cause mayhem or really any harm at all. He has balls. He should be written with them.
  • Less blue eyes, and sad endings. Less Pepperoni.
  • No more Loki's blue eyes, less golden apples, no more WIPs, less whoomp, no established relationship with Pepper
  • (depends on the execution, but...)Tony rescues Loki from torture at the hands of X and it's the reason they fall in love
  • People saying Loki's eyes are blue! They are either green or red. NO EXCEPTIONS!
  • In AU universes Loki is always either a stripper or prostitute. I get that he has Daddy issues but, Jesus, not every person with Daddy issues goes into some form of business where they sell themselves.
  • Pain. Does it have to hurt so much? Particularly in AUs where Loki gets sexually abused. No, thank you.
  • Thor bashing D:
  • Comic references
  • Less gratuitous meanness
  • The two of them falling in love within 1 week.....really? Really?
  • falling in love right away, loki caring for tony right away (or at all, sometimes?), tony just going and having sex with loki because he's ~reckless~, just them being all ~feeelings~ about each other, seriously, they're probably the people with less out spoken feelings EVER, they just don't do feelings, clint being okay with them????? i mean really. or actually, any of the avengers being okay with it, that's just weird. unless you have a good explanation for why they accept it, don't do it.
  • Angsty Loki, Loki who got the same punishment as Thor (banished and made mortal)
  • Bad grammar, extremely cliché language, overly submissive Loki, overly submissive Tony, unlabeled dubcon, and Tony/Pepper breakups that don't make sense or are taken as inevitable.
  • Pathetic in a whiney way Loki. Tony calling Loki babe. Ott slutty Loki. Stripper Loki (so so wrong...) Tony dying or being put in some weird coma.
  • UnableToFeedHimself!Tony
  • Less virginal Tony or any sort of Tony who is in any way innocent towards sex. I also don't want to see any Thor or Pepper hate. And less abuse towards Tony.
  • Loki redemption arc, blaming Thor and everybody for obvious Loki's misdeeds, trying to present things as if everything Loki did was for grater good
  • physical woobification. SPaG mistakes (obviously). OOCness (YMMV, but)
  • Loki randomly redeemed
  • OOCness- neither Tony or Loki are whiny pushovers they're both geniuses in their own way who are capable of dealing with their emotions like adults, Tony and Steve becoming bffs after the events of The Avengers- just because they worked well together doesn't mean they would immediately understand each other, less Loki being confused by technology- if he's smart enough to learn magic then he can probably figure out how to use a coffee maker
  • Bad writing in general, syntax-vise. Minor and occasional mistakes are okay since not all writers are native english speakers, me included, but there are those who really need to have their stuff checked before they post it. Unnecessary information. I don't need to read every little detail. Leave something for the reader to imagine!! and get on with the story! don't stal! I can't think of anything content-vise that i would like to see less of. just less of the bad written stories. Have them checked please!! Sometimes the story is really good but the language kills it. it's sad
  • SuperBottom!Loki - if his strength, cunning, and/or intelligence are not badass as all hell, even if injury or sickness or trauma has weakened him, I won't much care for it. I can't stand it when he's infantilized.
  • Porn
  • Mpreg! I hate it... Lady-loki is tolerable but nothing Else.... Realy; to soose coming totgeärgert... Happy Eber After fluff
  • Not a fan of non/dub-con and Loki being a total whore
  • I noticed that in some fics writers say that the only reason Loki tried to take over Earth was because his mind was being controlled by the scepter. While I do think the scepter played a role in it, let's not forget that Loki leveled a town in New Mexico without batting an eye in Thor. The guy has some demons, he's not as harmless as some people would like to believe. Also, I don't like when writers make him super polite or pleasant; that's just not in character for him.
  • Loki portrayed as weak. I mean's, he's a terrifying god for fuck's sake.
  • Loki or tony being pathetic crybabys ffs...
  • Pepperony pain. Actually less Pepper all together. More Jarvis wit. Some Clint wit. Thor c
  • Evil for no reason!Loki, weak!Tony, weak!Loki, OMG what is sex!Loki, OMG but I'm straight!Tony, Thorki.
  • less lovey-dovey confessions, they're just not the type. Yes, they may be in love, but they show it by actions rather than words. They have each others backs, but their MO is always more snark than mush.
  • Whimpy and/or innocent victim Loki.
  • Redeemed!Loki, amnesiac!Loki, human!Loki, CheeseySupervillain!Loki, functional Pepper/Tony, functional Thor/Loki, Natasha knows everything, good guy Odin, Nick Fury wins, Lady Loki
  • Whump Loki....make it stop
  • not a huge fan of mpreg
  • Thor Bashing, Suicidal!Loki
  • Hating on Thor and Odin
  • Thorki and non-con
  • Woobie!Loki. Having them fall in love in a short amount of time.
  • M-preg, plz and Thor just easily going along with the relationship.
  • Rapist Loki
  • Loki being weak. He's not weak.
  • Loki has his powers stripped away and is handed to the Avengers as punishment and to learn his lessons. Something different please.
  • Mpreg
  • mpreg, sensitive/caring loki
  • Loki acting shy, kind and generally the opposite of the evil bastard I love to hate. Instant redemption for Loki. Easy acceptance of Loki and Tony's relationship from the Avengers.
  • Weak, damaged, broken, instantly-remorseful Loki. Overly-perfect, sappy married life together.
  • AUs (especially modern/high-school/everyone-is-a-normal-human). Evil-Thor/Evil-Odin (yes, they've been kinda shitty family, but that doesn't make em evil).
  • Less cold, heartless Odin.
  • Everyone scared of Natasha/Pepper/token girl. It's unrealistic and stupid. Crying scenes every two pages. Tony incapable of taking care of himself.
  • Full blown smutty sex. There needs to be a plot and it annoys me when they have sex practically every night.
  • Less of Loki coming to Tony for help. It's a bit overdone.
  • Less mpreg
  • whump!Loki/Tony drives me nuts (where they completely make them hurt babies that just need hugs)
  • Tony being way shorter than Loki. RDJ is short, not Tony. He is 6' 1" in the comics and RDJ wears GODDAMN PLATFORM SHOES TO KEEP IT CLOSE TO THE COMICS. You can keep his eyes brown but I don't mind having a vlue-eyed Tony. Loki's are ALWAYS green, though (except when he's in Jotun form or wearing a disguise, obviously).
  • Loki is a bit screwed up. Hate it when he's all of a sudden a huge victim.
  • Clueless!Thor (he's not as simpleminded as some make him) or making Thor the villain.
  • Uncaring/Dumb Thor. I like the trope for parody purposes but it annoys me when people genuinely think he's like that.
  • Less Thor bashing, he's a good guy and a good brother. Also less of the Disney movie watching, seriously!
  • Too much whinyness from Loki. I can't stand it - he can be cruel, and while I do enjoy him having a breakdown, he'd be cold afterwards. Not constantly whiny.
  • Dude, as long as there is sex and romance I'm pretty happy.
  • Rape. There are fare too many fics where the relationship begins with forced sex, especially Loki raping Tony. I get that Loki is on a power trip, but he's more likely to seduce someone to get what he wants than to force them. He's a trickster, not a brute warrior.
  • Feelings and Idunn's apples.
  • Magically redeemed woobie Loki, and Tony being totally okay with it.
  • Less whining from both.
  • Mpreg. Abusive Thor :(
  • Loki is not a weak little bitch who cries all day and lives in a motherfucking coffee shop. Subsequently, he is neither some scrawny little shit or tiny compared to Thor. He is a god for fucks sake and a frost giant at that. Stop twisting the character to be some sad lonely little shit of a hipster and respect his canon glory.
  • woobie!Loki, "I'll take that drink now"
  • long-term romance, fighting, actual reality
  • Loki being shorter than Tony, Loki being a goody-two shoes, and Tony being a complete asshole only interested in sex
  • Golden apples. -cringe- Tony being called an ass. Tony having self-hate. The whole "I'm a monster" Jotun thing.
  • PWP, Loki becoming a full member of the Avengers...woobified Loki. Tony being ignorant about love.
  • Magically removing clothes/armour
  • loki self harming/suicide
  • Loki being feminized, completely immaculate. He should have equal qualities of both genders. Also arguing.
  • Sense of equality in the two.
  • Less Thor being seen as stupid or evil. Less woobie Loki!!! And less 'Loki has no powers and is an asshole to everyone'. Also this Tony dosen't know anything about the norse myths bullshit? I'm pretty sure that after meeting Thor he would have gone and done some fucking research. Less daddy issues fo' sho'.
  • Woobie-Loki; the man is BAMF personified.
  • soft!loki. loki is not a soft little woobie. HE IS A BADASS. PLEASE MAKE HIM SO.
  • less sads
  • Loki or Tony being weak crybabies. Thor being stupid, evil or overprotective of Loki. Evil Odin. Loki being mindcontrolled or tortured by Thanos. Loki redeeming himself quickly. And joining Avengers.
  • No m-preg, just no. And less happiness. But no character death.
  • Pepper is a lovely woman, and no one should say any differently. Thor may be a little clueless, but I want the brothers to make amends at some point.
  • Mpreg, issues of immortality.
  • No
  • Tony making a sarcastic comment ALL THE TIME. He does have a knack for comedy and witty remarks but he can also be serious and caring when the opitunity presents its self.
  • When it's smartass family less Peter parker.
  • Less of the whole "I see that we have similar family issues, Stark" stuff. Because seriously, if you're not going to do it right, why do it at all? If Loki or Tony is going to notice the whole Howard Stark/Odin Allfather boat, make it an authentic starting point of connection between them, not just something you use to throw them in bed together.
  • Yeah is not spelled ya or yea it's yeah get it right

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